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		<title>By: Kevin Coffey</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-362461</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Coffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeni, good luck with the &#039;day&#039; job.
When will your designing pay your super and leave?
Ragtraders never retire, so super is a cute concept.
Leave entitlements. I&#039;m sure your clients will be queueing around the block to cover your leave entitlements.
The reason why it is difficult is competition from global markets who don&#039;t pay the rates you are referring to.
Clients vote at the cash register whether to support all the conditions you refer to.
We have a small Atelier Studio in Newcastle NSW. We have been in the fashion industry for 30 years. We quote $65 per hour to our clients, and it remains a &#039;sustainable experiment&#039; thanks to Mother&#039;s of the Bride and Groom. Our garments cost $3,000.00 and up. We use dressmakers with ABN&#039;s.They are paid well. We will not be able to do that, and we will not be employing full time staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeni, good luck with the &#8216;day&#8217; job.<br />
When will your designing pay your super and leave?<br />
Ragtraders never retire, so super is a cute concept.<br />
Leave entitlements. I&#8217;m sure your clients will be queueing around the block to cover your leave entitlements.<br />
The reason why it is difficult is competition from global markets who don&#8217;t pay the rates you are referring to.<br />
Clients vote at the cash register whether to support all the conditions you refer to.<br />
We have a small Atelier Studio in Newcastle NSW. We have been in the fashion industry for 30 years. We quote $65 per hour to our clients, and it remains a &#8216;sustainable experiment&#8217; thanks to Mother&#8217;s of the Bride and Groom. Our garments cost $3,000.00 and up. We use dressmakers with ABN&#8217;s.They are paid well. We will not be able to do that, and we will not be employing full time staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic Beirne</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-361941</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic Beirne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeni it is very simple.  The amendments to the Fair Work Act make contracting work out to a person who has a home based business illegal.  The outworker - quite often a woman with english as a second or third language - who may well have established a company/business, set up a work room, purchased machinery and threads etc because she wanted to work from  home is now no longer able to work from home as a company or any entity other than an employee of the designer.

You mention you are starting out as a designer.  Well before you go too far down that track make sure you don&#039;t give pattern-making and grading, cutting, sewing or any other TCF work to a home-based business.  If you do you will have to pay the person the award wage and all on costs for a minimum of 20 hours per week.  I hope you can afford it because m oct of the businesses in the industry can&#039;t.

By the way, the coalition support for this industry and employer&#039;s rights, yes we have rights too, is well documented with funding programs and some favourable trade negotiations, not many I&#039;ll grant  but some.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeni it is very simple.  The amendments to the Fair Work Act make contracting work out to a person who has a home based business illegal.  The outworker &#8211; quite often a woman with english as a second or third language &#8211; who may well have established a company/business, set up a work room, purchased machinery and threads etc because she wanted to work from  home is now no longer able to work from home as a company or any entity other than an employee of the designer.</p>
<p>You mention you are starting out as a designer.  Well before you go too far down that track make sure you don&#8217;t give pattern-making and grading, cutting, sewing or any other TCF work to a home-based business.  If you do you will have to pay the person the award wage and all on costs for a minimum of 20 hours per week.  I hope you can afford it because m oct of the businesses in the industry can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>By the way, the coalition support for this industry and employer&#8217;s rights, yes we have rights too, is well documented with funding programs and some favourable trade negotiations, not many I&#8217;ll grant  but some.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Thwaites</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-359871</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Thwaites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 10:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another example of how out of touch the government in this country is in regard to small to medium business owners and their importance in helping to sustain the economy by giving jobs to people who often otherwise would not be able to be employed. In their misguided crusade of giving more privileges to the workers they overlook that unless Australian businesses can remain competitive in the global market place there will eventually be less and less jobs left for the workers in this country that they are supposedly protecting the rights of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another example of how out of touch the government in this country is in regard to small to medium business owners and their importance in helping to sustain the economy by giving jobs to people who often otherwise would not be able to be employed. In their misguided crusade of giving more privileges to the workers they overlook that unless Australian businesses can remain competitive in the global market place there will eventually be less and less jobs left for the workers in this country that they are supposedly protecting the rights of.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeni</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-358984</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 07:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused.  What does the amendment legislation actually do?

The author seems to be saying these laws &quot;effectively banned outworkers working from home, as well as several other provisions which includes outworkers being paid superannuation, leave entitlements, and also insisting they must have a minimum of 20 hours a week to be paid from manufacturers.&quot;  I&#039;ve looked at ECA&#039;s website and they say there is no banning, and this whole thing about super and leave and minimum hours of work have been around for a long time!

(here&#039;s the link: http://www.ethicalclothingaustralia.org.au/news-1/the-fair-work-act-changes-what-they-mean)

I&#039;ve also read this article on a blog I follow: http://feministculturemuncher.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/fair-fashion-new-legislation-aims-to.html

So who&#039;s right?

Can you provide a link to the actual legislation so we can read?

And ha, as if the Lib-Nats are going to be any better!

By they way, I&#039;m just a starting out designer, mostly making for myself and friends, while I work another dayjob.  If the dream happens and my love of design can become my career, wonderful.  But if I people are going to work for me in Australia, they should get Australian wages, just like I get now in my dayjob.  Why shouldn&#039;t people get super? Why shouldn&#039;t people get leave entitlements?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  What does the amendment legislation actually do?</p>
<p>The author seems to be saying these laws &#8220;effectively banned outworkers working from home, as well as several other provisions which includes outworkers being paid superannuation, leave entitlements, and also insisting they must have a minimum of 20 hours a week to be paid from manufacturers.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve looked at ECA&#8217;s website and they say there is no banning, and this whole thing about super and leave and minimum hours of work have been around for a long time!</p>
<p>(here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://www.ethicalclothingaustralia.org.au/news-1/the-fair-work-act-changes-what-they-mean" rel="nofollow">http://www.ethicalclothingaustralia.org.au/news-1/the-fair-work-act-changes-what-they-mean</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read this article on a blog I follow: <a href="http://feministculturemuncher.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/fair-fashion-new-legislation-aims-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://feministculturemuncher.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/fair-fashion-new-legislation-aims-to.html</a></p>
<p>So who&#8217;s right?</p>
<p>Can you provide a link to the actual legislation so we can read?</p>
<p>And ha, as if the Lib-Nats are going to be any better!</p>
<p>By they way, I&#8217;m just a starting out designer, mostly making for myself and friends, while I work another dayjob.  If the dream happens and my love of design can become my career, wonderful.  But if I people are going to work for me in Australia, they should get Australian wages, just like I get now in my dayjob.  Why shouldn&#8217;t people get super? Why shouldn&#8217;t people get leave entitlements?</p>
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		<title>By: Outworkers rights &#124; Aamigostravel</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-358311</link>
		<dc:creator>Outworkers rights &#124; Aamigostravel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alf de Hombre</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-358248</link>
		<dc:creator>Alf de Hombre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This subjugating move by the ALP is not only ruinous for the fashion industry as a living network of contributing businesses but it is literally an attempt of murdering the this area of the creative industry within our shores. 
See Johanna Blakley: &quot;Lessons from fashion&#039;s free culture&quot; for some direct correlations.

Alf de Hombre – Creative Strategist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This subjugating move by the ALP is not only ruinous for the fashion industry as a living network of contributing businesses but it is literally an attempt of murdering the this area of the creative industry within our shores.<br />
See Johanna Blakley: &#8220;Lessons from fashion&#8217;s free culture&#8221; for some direct correlations.</p>
<p>Alf de Hombre – Creative Strategist</p>
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		<title>By: jenny bannister</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-358149</link>
		<dc:creator>jenny bannister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 07:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we all need to make a positive move on this additional industry problem,
But it ain&#039;t opening new factories in australia Michelle, 
Our price points of made in australia are too high already due to the cheap crap coming in from offshore, competing against our beautifully made australian product. 
Extra rental rolled in to the final  garment price is totally a bad business move.
So it looks likes the mass exodus to Bali is on !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we all need to make a positive move on this additional industry problem,<br />
But it ain&#8217;t opening new factories in australia Michelle,<br />
Our price points of made in australia are too high already due to the cheap crap coming in from offshore, competing against our beautifully made australian product.<br />
Extra rental rolled in to the final  garment price is totally a bad business move.<br />
So it looks likes the mass exodus to Bali is on !</p>
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		<title>By: Viviana Pannell</title>
		<link>https://fashionexposedblog.com/2012/04/when-politics-and-fashion-collide/#comment-358125</link>
		<dc:creator>Viviana Pannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 06:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel extremely upset at this.  What this means is that all of us, artisan labels doing more exclusive ranges,  will have to consider manufacturing overseas and taking a huge risk in doing so, with greater quantities and loss of quality control, thus obliterating our exclusivity and our flexibility.  Beyond what this will financially mean to all of us,  I think is an absolutely stupid idea to totally kill a pool of skills which is scarcely alive  here in this country to make us totally dependent on overseas labour,  not even knowing if it is a young child in chains making garments or an underpaid factory  worker who receives $0.50 a day,  a bowl of rice and &quot;accomodation&quot;  in absolute squalor for a 16 hour day with no holidays.  The &quot;over protection&quot; of our labour force is taking away their jobs and enabling inscrupulous empresarios overseas to fill their pockets at the cost of exploitation and even slavery.   Basquesse when based in New Zealand was proudly made in New Zealand.  Now based in Australia,  we are proudly made in Australia. We had wished to always be so and will strive to find a way but this will bring a lot of grief where we have enough to contend with already.  Thank you very much,  labour government.  Yes,  I agree that it is all about the votes and very little about the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel extremely upset at this.  What this means is that all of us, artisan labels doing more exclusive ranges,  will have to consider manufacturing overseas and taking a huge risk in doing so, with greater quantities and loss of quality control, thus obliterating our exclusivity and our flexibility.  Beyond what this will financially mean to all of us,  I think is an absolutely stupid idea to totally kill a pool of skills which is scarcely alive  here in this country to make us totally dependent on overseas labour,  not even knowing if it is a young child in chains making garments or an underpaid factory  worker who receives $0.50 a day,  a bowl of rice and &#8220;accomodation&#8221;  in absolute squalor for a 16 hour day with no holidays.  The &#8220;over protection&#8221; of our labour force is taking away their jobs and enabling inscrupulous empresarios overseas to fill their pockets at the cost of exploitation and even slavery.   Basquesse when based in New Zealand was proudly made in New Zealand.  Now based in Australia,  we are proudly made in Australia. We had wished to always be so and will strive to find a way but this will bring a lot of grief where we have enough to contend with already.  Thank you very much,  labour government.  Yes,  I agree that it is all about the votes and very little about the population.</p>
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